interesting discussion with very little balance. This suggests either that Marston is unethical or that most people here are upset. Having recently taken a tour after looking for a pub, I can only add that I don`t know if the problem comes from bdm or marstons! Originally, I wanted to adopt it through the Pathway agreement, but I proposed a transition agreement that was to last 6 months, and finally a 6-week Square Deal agreement was proposed (which I have never heard of before). The amount of work required to bring it to a suitable level to sell food or rent rooms means we have to pay a £5,000 deposit and another £5,000 for cleaning and replacement, with no guarantee of conversion into a full deal or refund of the deposit or costs.as we are still waiting for the documents and are already losing £5,000 so far in associated costs, our next step will be interesting. Hello, I was also very close to applying for the retail contract, but I am now looking for other options. Do you have more information or a link to a website to Phoenix? A Google search was unlucky. So glad I came across this site. We were told that we should not have the windows cleaned until further notice in October and still not allowed in March —- you can imagine! I`ve always thought that something with the way VAT is treated on the weekly bill isn`t sure how they`re doing, but they do – Marstons cuts people who keep them afloat and don`t care because there`s always the next gullible person taking their place Hello to someone here, who sued Marstons and got money back? RUN TOWARDS THE HILLS. Unlike many here, with Marstons as a company or employer, I don`t have an axe to grind. But sometimes you have to be honest. Last year, I was asked (as a Marstons employee) to take control of a “failing” (but still profitable) pub in the city centre in the short term. It was an honest deal.

A short-term agreement that runs a managed pub until a retailer (or “reviewer, as area managers openly call it”) can be found. The pub was ok. Dated yes, decaying no. It operated with absolutely minimal staff, they struggled to keep up, but no money available at headquarters. I made up the deficit. It is a wet and dry site that takes £10-11k per week. I worked 50 hours a week (+ waiting hours for deliveries, etc.) as a salaried manager. Labour costs to maintain the pub (absolute minimum staff for a large location) £ 1700.It went into retail. Incoming retailers/resellers would be reduced to 20%. In a good week they bring in £2200. You pay 20% VAT on this figure (£2200 – £440 = £1760).

Even at a minimum staff level, they would pay £1700 in salary, meaning that refugees` income for a 50-hour week is around £60, and then they have to pay municipal tax and national insurance. As I said, I don`t have an axe to grind with Marstons, but this deal is a scam. The pub I ran made them money, but the greedy b******s see retail as a way to make a somewhat profitable business and get rid of wages and some VAT without regard for the retailer. Then, when the retailer tries, they increase goals and reduce budgets anyway. If you don`t learn anything else from this thread, consider the word “Refailer.” This is a joke among division managers. You fail, they find someone who fails, and then someone else. Hi Steven, I just ran with this deal and collected the names of people who are also upset to see what we can do, I suspect there is a better chance in numbers. If you would like to get in touch with me, please send me an email gareth.scratcherd@hotmail.co.uk I just ended my retail contract after 7 years with Marstons.as all the other reviews have not reached 2 pounds a hour.as far, what the v.a.t is happening, I asked h.m.r.c after two years why I should pay v.a.t and they said I should take it with marstons.in January 2015, I signed up, which HMRC allowed.

I asked for a VAT refund, they informed me to take it with Marstons. After not having fun with Marstons, I wrote to the VAT office with information on how to recover my VAT. On Monday, June 25, I received my reply. They agreed that I would never be registered, but told me I had no time left to complain. There seems to be a delay of 4 years, and no matter how long you have tried to discuss this issue with the VAT office, if no legal arrangement has been made in these 4 years, you will run out of time. The VAT office will only let you hang so far that you will be prevented from setting this court in motion. Keep in mind that the VAT office has admitted that the only income you receive from Marstons is the only income on which you have to pay VAT. If you do not exceed the VAT base, you do not need to register.

Unsubscribe now!, make your claim to the VAT overpaid in writing, do not hesitate. The retail contract is structured in such a way that it spoils the retailer. but… There are only wet gold mine sites there (the key is “wet only”, if there is a tied kitchen, walk to the hills). A Marstons retail site is a “deal or no deal” game. We tackled a massively underperforming damp pub. We worked damn hard and for two years we did well and made a comfortable living from it. Marstons did well, we did well. Not a champagne lifestyle, but a good life. But as victims of our own success, they sit in a small kitchen. This promised a limited selection of burgers and sandwiches.

What we got was a menu that required a full-time chef (own expense) and when it didn`t work (as we said), they chose mistakes in our marketing of this “fabulous new menu” (which they`ll tell you has been so successful EVERYWHERE ELSE). Only wet. Do your research and consider any mention of food. Running in the mountains Anyone who thinks they can run a pub with a 20% payroll is a fool, especially with the upcoming minimum wage increases. A pub with a net of £5,000 a week has only £1,000 to spend on salaries and will be open for at least 80 hours a week. It`s just two decent salaries, including NI and pensions, etc. That`s about 125 hours of the proposed new minimum wage. Are you assuming that you could perform a day and night operation 7 days a week with 125 hours of staff? Do you think someone half decent would cook in your kitchen for minimum wage? Then you pay for the lost stock – you think you would never pour on a glass, break a bottle, do not miss, never drink a sneaky pint to the staff? DO NOT WORRY. Save, buy a decent rental at a regional family brewery or get an office job.

Hello, can someone please help us with some tips? We were offered a foundation agreement with Marstons that gives us 30% of wet sales and keeps sales dry for us. The turnover is currently around £2,000 per week. We are completely new to this area and like some tips please? I`ve been in the pub business with Marstons for 8 years and I agree that they are the best to work for. And yes, the pub is not as good as the person who runs it. If you worked for Marstons before running a pub with set goals, and in general your payroll budget is 18% or less if I had to work my salary in our 1.5%, so 19.5%, based on our sales. So how people can`t get by with 22% is beyond me, it`s just that you pay taxes etc. but I can pay my salary less than what they budget for me, I just decide to use them then, or I lose them next year! I also pay community tax from my salary, so that would not be a problem. There is a “Q&A” on Amber Taverns` operator agreement in www.ambertaverns.co.uk/recruitment/operator-agreement/ that can be helpful. I suspect that the actual deal is only available directly from the company.

Hi, could you please tell me if the website was set up ,,, I could write pages about this company, I lost over 50k running some of those shitholes that call marstons pubs, also I know at least 4 or 5 people who ruined Marstons who would be more than happy to write their stories there, I guess the surplus simply goes into Marston`s books as an increase in their overall inventory value, although considering the way Marston handles deficits, this is clearly an advantage to your business and should appear as such. The whole agreement seems to be designed this way, that is, to use marston`s at the expense of the owners. I don`t think this can be called fraudulent as details are included in the deal or can be questioned during a job interview, but there is certainly a lack of clarity in key areas that is being exploited to the benefit of the company. The alarm bell sounded for me when I attended a meeting with friends who were considering making the deal; As soon as it turned out that we had a few serious questions to ask, marston`s representatives lost interest. .